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Re: 有人用.NET做PORTAL么?
[版面:窗口里的风景][首篇作者:payan] , 2003年10月13日15:20:34 ,647次阅读,27次回复
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LodossWar
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发信人: LodossWar (sleepycat), 信区: DotNet
标  题: Re: 有人用.NET做PORTAL么?
发信站: Unknown Space - 未名空间 (Mon Oct 13 16:56:21 2003) WWW-POST

That really confused me.
1. SQL server + java = not good performance. At least worse than SQL Server +
.Net

2. Why asp as front end? The solution has a portable back end, why put a
platform specific front end? Just want to use some ActiveX control?


【 在 st (月光下老虎慢慢吃人) 的大作中提到: 】
: mixed, some part is,with some asp as well,sql server-java middle
tier-xslt->asp
:
: 【 在 LodossWar (sleepycat) 的大作中提到: 】
: : You company's solutions are based on Java? As weblogic's solution?


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发信人: st (月光下老虎慢慢吃人), 信区: DotNet
标  题: Re: 有人用.NET做PORTAL么?
发信站: Unknown Space - 未名空间 (Mon Oct 13 17:06:56 2003), 站内信件

we had many legacy things, and company is not ready to use .net yet, new merged
company is more ready but it takes time....

you are not working, are you? in company, it's not really what is good matters,
some guy only know java was in charge of production, they rewrite java classes
all the time and they had to work very late every night to get things done in
THEIR WAY, taht's why java was used, they only know java and hate M$.

asp was used long time ago, we use pc version, some jsp but mostly asp and
charts are provided by java.(which is common)

it doesnot matter if asp/jsp as frontend, browser can handle both, right?
we host most of the sites, we use pc farm(many old machines,it's a problem now)
not really active control, if I remember right, middle tier java creates
those standard XML output then be converted with XSLT to jsp/asp/html for
better customization, we do a lot customization.

【 在 LodossWar (sleepycat) 的大作中提到: 】
: That really confused me.
: 1. SQL server + java = not good performance. At least worse than SQL Server +
: .Net
: 2. Why asp as front end? The solution has a portable back end, why put a
: platform specific front end? Just want to use some ActiveX control?
: 【 在 st (月光下老虎慢慢吃人) 的大作中提到: 】
: : mixed, some part is,with some asp as well,sql server-java middle
: tier-xslt->asp


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发信人: LodossWar (sleepycat), 信区: DotNet
标  题: Re: 有人用.NET做PORTAL么?
发信站: Unknown Space - 未名空间 (Mon Oct 13 17:33:10 2003) WWW-POST

I C. Thanks.

【 在 st (月光下老虎慢慢吃人) 的大作中提到: 】
: we had many legacy things, and company is not ready to use .net yet, new
merged
: company is more ready but it takes time....
:
: you are not working, are you? in company, it's not really what is good
matters,
: some guy only know java was in charge of production, they rewrite java
classes
: all the time and they had to work very late every night to get things done
in
: THEIR WAY, taht's why java was used, they only know java and hate M$.
:
: asp was used long time ago, we use pc version, some jsp but mostly asp and
: charts are provided by java.(which is common)
:
: it doesnot matter if asp/jsp as frontend, browser can handle both, right?
: we host most of the sites, we use pc farm(many old machines,it's a problem
now)
: not really active control, if I remember right, middle tier java creates
: those standard XML output then be converted with XSLT to jsp/asp/html for
: better customization, we do a lot customization.
:
: 【 在 LodossWar (sleepycat) 的大作中提到: 】
: : That really confused me.
: : 1. SQL server + java = not good performance. At least worse than SQL
Server +
: : .Net
: : 2. Why asp as front end? The solution has a portable back end, why put a
: : platform specific front end? Just want to use some ActiveX control?
: : 【 在 st (月光下老虎慢慢吃人) 的大作中提到: 】
: : : mixed, some part is,with some asp as well,sql server-java middle
: : tier-xslt->asp
:
:


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发信人: workaholic (周兴兴), 信区: DotNet
标  题: Re: 有人用.NET做PORTAL么?
发信站: Unknown Space - 未名空间 (Mon Oct 13 18:05:54 2003) WWW-POST

I read a document from websphere portal server group a couple of months ago.
their projection of the whole portal market this year is like a few million
dollars, miserable compared with the application server market.
【 在 LodossWar (sleepycat) 的大作中提到: 】
: hmm. I don't know.
:
: But if the company use a good portal, they don't need tech ppl to help them
: publish content any more. Almost every one can publish news and other
: information. The company can save money for paying tech ppl and can make the
: publishing procedure faster.
:
: At least, they provide a lot of information online and they can do data
mining
: later.
:
: 【 在 st (月光下老虎慢慢吃人) 的大作中提到: 】
: : enh? the portals we provide are just news/financial information with
: : customization options, etc... we sold A LOT portals to various companies,
: you
: : think those "content" portal is of any use at all?
: :

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发信人: payan (沛岩), 信区: DotNet
标  题: Re: 有人用.NET做PORTAL么?
发信站: Unknown Space - 未名空间 (Mon Oct 13 19:09:40 2003), 站内信件



是不是PORTAL都不太好说.现在这些VENDOR的PORTAL策略大多是
和APPLICATION SERVER捆绑, 计算纯粹的PORTAL REVENUE 和
MARKET 的大小也有一定难度.

【 在 workaholic (周兴兴) 的大作中提到: 】
: I read a document from websphere portal server group a couple of months ago.
: their projection of the whole portal market this year is like a few million
: dollars, miserable compared with the application server market.
: 【 在 LodossWar (sleepycat) 的大作中提到: 】
: : hmm. I don't know.
: : But if the company use a good portal, they don't need tech ppl to help them
: : publish content any more. Almost every one can publish news and other
: : information. The company can save money for paying tech ppl and can make the
: : publishing procedure faster.
: : At least, they provide a lot of information online and they can do data
: mining
: : later.
: : you


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发信人: LodossWar (sleepycat), 信区: DotNet
标  题: Re: 有人用.NET做PORTAL么?
发信站: Unknown Space - 未名空间 (Mon Oct 13 19:31:54 2003) WWW-POST

俺个人觉得实用的portal是intranet合作平台。一个分散在各地的group,大家互相合作
,资源共享,最后形成一个内部的知识库。

老实说,现在做的portal和当年的MIS没有什么区别。只不过技术更新而已。
web logic portal的介绍上说:
"to improve productivity and reduce cost by integrating and simplifying
information service".
呵呵,这样定义portal可就广了去了。

weblogic portal的功能模块包括:content management, search, collaboration,
interaction management and commerce.


a few million dollars? 随便几个公司的project就不止这么多了吧,如果全行业就这
么小块饼,我想没人做了。

【 在 payan (沛岩) 的大作中提到: 】
:
:
: 是不是PORTAL都不太好说.现在这些VENDOR的PORTAL策略大多是
: 和APPLICATION SERVER捆绑, 计算纯粹的PORTAL REVENUE 和
: MARKET 的大小也有一定难度.
:
: 【 在 workaholic (周兴兴) 的大作中提到: 】
: : I read a document from websphere portal server group a couple of months
ago.
: : their projection of the whole portal market this year is like a few
million
: : dollars, miserable compared with the application server market.



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发信人: st (月光下老虎慢慢吃人), 信区: DotNet
标  题: Re: 有人用.NET做PORTAL么?
发信站: Unknown Space - 未名空间 (Mon Oct 13 20:38:24 2003), 站内信件

I remember portal market was projected a lot higher before, as EMC2 spent
a lot for portal back in the golden old days when they had a lot cash. :D
this a few million is more like normal demand. :D

【 在 workaholic (周兴兴) 的大作中提到: 】
: I read a document from websphere portal server group a couple of months ago.
: their projection of the whole portal market this year is like a few million
: dollars, miserable compared with the application server market.
: 【 在 LodossWar (sleepycat) 的大作中提到: 】
: : hmm. I don't know.
: : But if the company use a good portal, they don't need tech ppl to help them
: : publish content any more. Almost every one can publish news and other
: : information. The company can save money for paying tech ppl and can make the
: : publishing procedure faster.
: : At least, they provide a lot of information online and they can do data
: mining
: : later.
: : you


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小松鼠觉得这个问法蛮好玩的,说“你是第一次吃动物吗?”小老虎更不好意思了,说,
“是的。。。妈妈不在家了。。。”“那。。你以前吃什么呢?”小松鼠又好奇的问到。
“……”“什么?说大声点。。。我听不到”“吃奶!”说完,小老虎的脸更红更红了。
--[转载]月光下老虎慢慢吃人

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发信人: payan (沛岩), 信区: DotNet
标  题: Re: 有人用.NET做PORTAL么?
发信站: Unknown Space - 未名空间 (Tue Oct 14 21:40:31 2003), 站内信件


amazing enough, EMC2 purchased Documentum today, a leading CMS
company.


【 在 st (月光下老虎慢慢吃人) 的大作中提到: 】
: I remember portal market was projected a lot higher before, as EMC2 spent
: a lot for portal back in the golden old days when they had a lot cash. :D
: this a few million is more like normal demand. :D
: 【 在 workaholic (周兴兴) 的大作中提到: 】
: : I read a document from websphere portal server group a couple of months ago.
: : their projection of the whole portal market this year is like a few million
: : dollars, miserable compared with the application server market.
: : mining


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